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Is an equitable dialogue possible between smaller charities and commissioners?

Posted By Administration, 02 December 2021

As part of their Clore Social Leadership ‘Emerging Leaders’ programme, Gwendolyn Sterk, Sam Edom, Katie Potter, Becky Evans, Stephanie Woodrow and Claire Kofman reflect on the relationship between smaller charities and commissioners - and what can be done to improve conversations between the two.

For many leaders in the third sector, particularly those based within smaller communities providing frontline support and services, competitive commissioning processes can be a complex, uncertain and unequal space.

Smaller charities[1] are disproportionately impacted by inequalities inbuilt in commissioning regimes, further exacerbating and entrenching structural inequalities that impact the communities in which small charities are situated, for example institutional racism.[2] At the same time, there has been much praise directed towards the value of small charities[3] in their ability to meet the needs of the communities in which they are formed and deliver support.

Evidence has also shown that Covid-19 has further exacerbated inequalities across communities, which has had a disproportionate impact on smaller charities. However, Covid-19 has also offered opportunities for small charities to be flexible and responsive in meeting the needs of the communities they serve.

With the reality being both an inequitable struggle for small charities within commissioning structures but also an assertion and recognition of the vital work small charities do, that cannot be done by others, particularly at a time of crisis, it seems vital that a space for dialogue is created to enable the positive work to prevail.

With this in mind, we set out to speak to both small charity leaders and commissioners to answer the question: “What are the barriers to facilitating open conversations between small charities and statutory commissioners, and how might they be overcome?”

To begin with, after considering the existing research in this area, we had conversations with people within both the social sector and with commissioners we knew to explore the issue further. We found there were four impacts on the ability to have open conversations to consider - commissioning structures, Covid-19 and the cliff edge caused by short-term funding cycles, inequalities, and the lack of capacity within smaller charities.

Following on from these findings, we put together two different surveys - one for leaders in smaller charities, and one for commissioners. Although we had a reasonable response to the survey for leaders of smaller charities, we struggled to reach commissioners, only receiving a few responses. However, the responses we did receive gave a good indication of the barriers to be overcome.


The Barriers

1. Commissioners can be hard to engage in discussion

Interestingly, and as mentioned previously, throughout our investigation of this question we have struggled to engage commissioners in even discussing the question, with a few notable exceptions (which we are very grateful to).

This may be due to commissioners wanting to maintain an aspect of independence from charities as we come from charities ourselves, or that the engagement routes utilised by charities are not the same spaces where commissioners can engage. But it seems our experience is symptomatic of the difficulty of creating a dialogue between charities and commissioners. We struggled to identify informal spaces where commissioners engage in discussion, whereas charities were accessible to us via social media.

2. Inflexible systems imposed from above

The perceived inflexibility of procurement regulation and the belief that they implement an unbiased approach left commissioners acting in structures that did not allow for the values of small charities to be seen, or for engagement to happen within the commissioning process that was not strictly controlled.

Stringent and inflexible approaches to commissioning regimes left commissioners distant from the impact small charities have on communities, prioritising cost over value for money. It was recognised that commissioners were themselves restricted by higher level decision making and bureaucracy:

“Most of our commissioners see the need for change but change is blocked further up. Overall systems are inflexible and one size fits all. As a small charity, it feels like we're working in a system designed to get the cheapest deal on bulk buy toilet rolls.”

“In my experience commissioners usually genuinely want to listen and learn, however they often don't have much opportunity to change processes based on what they learn.”

3. Lack of understanding on the part of commissioners as to what small charities do, and often a lack of sympathy in their struggles

In our survey responses, commissioners spoke of the work smaller charities do as being innovative, agile, responsive to individual need, and embedded in the communities they serve.

However, 29% of the small charity leaders that responded to our survey said that they didn’t feel confident that commissioners understand the situation on the ground.

The commissioners recognised that small charities could struggle within the commissioning process, however their responses focused on what small charities could do to ‘fit in’ rather than thinking about how the system may reduce bureaucracy so that small charities may equally participate:

“Bigger organisations are often more laissez faire with the frustrating bureaucracy, for example, late payments or disappearing professionals - maybe because of experience or a bigger financial cushion.”

“[Small charities should] make the commissioner's job easy.”

That being said, across both commissioners and small charities there was a desire to move towards better dialogue and talk about engagement that is meaningful.


So how might these barriers be overcome?

1. Develop a more flexible relationship

The response to Covid-19 demonstrated an opportunity for things to be different. Smaller charity leaders noted that there was greater recognition that they could respond in a needs-led manner, allowing for flexibility over KPIs and a greater recognition that smaller charities could provide grassroots information and evidence to inform swift funding decisions. There was a recognition that smaller charities needed to lead on the adaptation of their provision at a time of crisis within the resources provided:

“When commissioners have taken on board changes required as a result of Covid-19, they were very open to the changes that were needed to deliver the services, understood the changes needed and that we could deliver for the funds we had.”

It was clear from the survey that smaller charities believe they are more aware of the need and can respond better than larger charities or statutory services to community needs. This became a great advantage during Covid-19 and should be considered as part of the process in building back better.

2. Come and see it

Most of the survey respondents had an open invitation to commissioners to come and see their work and meet the people whose lives were being changed.

One survey respondent highlighted a scheme called Transition Pilots. The scheme saw commissioners working alongside the smaller charity to try a new approach:

“The idea is that the commissioner meets with us every six weeks and begins to implement the learning into their commissioning process - a commitment to commission for people and not for problems.”

The charity noted that this was happening in three spaces at the moment, however was not currently a system-wide approach.

Advice to commissioners is to visit the smaller organisations at their base of operations and allow time to understand them in an informal setting. Ideally, commissioners would then have the autonomy to implement learning from these meetings into their commissioning practices. If this isn’t possible, then at least a dialogue would be opened.

3. Take commissioners on the journey

Maintaining positive relationships with commissioners once they were successful in tenders was key for smaller charities: invite commissioners to review delivery, meet the people involved, and include service user feedback in any reporting. They noted that ensuring commissioners understand the challenges along the way can be key to maintaining a dialogue.

This can be hard when commissioners change roles or who to report to changes frequently. Relationship building takes time, and small charities don’t have the resources to engage regularly. So it is vital that commissioners also recognise smaller charities are exactly that and do not necessarily have lots of resources to attend multiple meetings. They should work in partnership with the organisation on equal terms, and that partnership shouldn’t depend on individuals from either side but be developed across teams so that a key partner leaving or changing role does not derail the relationship.

4. Focus on delivering long-term change

Thinking longer term and recognising the struggles of smaller charities and the need for flexibility was key for smaller charities to feel able to have equitable discussions with commissioners:

“We had a conversation about the long-term nature of change and they adapted by recognising how hard it is/being more flexible with outcomes.”

This will require being open to challenge and new ideas. Commissioners will need to understand that smaller organisations can struggle to be stable on short rounds of funding, and that multi-year contracts will result in more consistent, higher quality delivery.

5. Acknowledge that radical change is possible

The response to Covid-19 has shown that there can be different ways of commissioning work which can include simplified processes and allowances for the ways smaller charities work. Moving forward, it will be important for commissioners to consider wider questions of inequality and who gets to be involved when it comes to commissioning processes, particularly around issues like race where research shows time and time again that Black and Minoritised community organisations are unable to access the processes that larger organisations can:

“We need to take this argument back to the structure. The structure of funds, how they are set up. Who they are accountable to, where their accountabilities lie, what representation do they have of the community, do they look like the community and do they understand the lived experiences of the communities? A lot of those decision making boards can’t tick those boxes.”[4]




[1] Community based, local and/or target group specific, defined financially as under £2m turnover a year for the purposes of our survey

[2] https://www.ubele.org/booska-paper

[3] https://www.lloydsbankfoundation.org.uk/media/c2aphccs/the-value-of-small.pdf

[4] https://www.ubele.org/booska-paper

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Making a transition during Covid-19

Posted By Clore Social Leadership, 04 May 2020
Updated: 23 October 2020

Kate Stanley is a 2010 Clore Social Fellow. Reflecting on her own experience, Kate shares some micro-tips for transition during lockdown in her video, plus transcript below.



Hi, my name is Kate Stanley and when Clore Social put out the call for stories about leading through this period of lockdown, I thought it was an interesting opportunity to reflect on my own experience of transition during this lockdown period.

Last week I was working at the NSPCC as a Board Director, where I was director of strategy policy and evidence. I was at NSPCC for over eight years and I had a team of 65, a substantial budget and a significant span of control. Obviously NSPCC is one of the country's largest children’s charities and has a long history of over 130 years of preventing cruelty to children.

That was last week. This week I have started my new role - I’ve joined the FrameWorks Institute. We have a team of three in the UK and big plans. It would be a really significant change at any time but obviously it's particularly significant during this time of lockdown.

The FrameWorks Institute is a non-profit based in the US and it works to help other non-profits to shift public understanding of important social issues to drive social change. It does this through framing research. Framing is really about what we say and how we say it, so it helps organisations to reframe their issue to drive social change.

That would be, as I said, a big change at any time but especially big now, so I was reflecting on the things that have helped me during this transition. There are three things that really popped to mind straightaway:

1. Don’t neglect rites of passage


The first one was about rites of passage. My background is an anthropologist. In anthropology you learn about rites of passage being important. Ways of marking moments in time. Obviously when we leave organisations there are certain rites of passage that we normally have and at this time of lockdown many of those just aren’t possible; the get-togethers, the drinks and so on. So we had a zoom farewell which was that opportunity for me to say bye to colleagues and to say thank you and good luck, and for them say bye to me. I was very hesitant to do this at first but actually I'm really glad that I did. It was an important opportunity to mark that rite of passage, to mark that moment of transition and I'm really glad I got the chance to to say bye.

2. Pay attention to your work environment


The second thing that's made a difference is something as simple as rearranging the study in which I work. Now obviously, we're all working, or many of us are working, at home at the moment but having a new setup, new things around me to mark that transition from one organisation to another has again been really important and helpful for me in marking that change.

3. Reconnect with your network

The third thing that, I would reflect, has been important is to reconnect with networks. As many of you will recognise that when you're doing a high pressure intensity job, it’s quite difficult to keep up with your networks. But if you're involved with Clore Social, you’ll also know how important that they are. So this has been a really good moment for me to reconnect with networks, reconnect with former colleagues and to strengthen those ties so I feel like I'm part of something much bigger.

So, there are three things that have helped me in this transition during this lockdown phase. I hope you're getting on alright, and I look forward to hearing your story.

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Neil Mapes Clore Social reflections: 10, 20, 30?

Posted By Clore Social Leadership, 17 February 2020
Updated: 23 October 2020
I remember sitting in the reception of the Mental Health Foundation in London thumbing through materials on the coffee table. I picked up a flyer for a new leadership programme, Clore Social Leadership, something I had never heard about at that point. I subsequently secured a space on the inaugural Clore Social Leadership programme as part of the 2010 cohort. In April 2009 I had registered Dementia Adventure as an organisation but in reality, the organisation at that time was just me in a spare bedroom at my parent’s house. No staff, no resources, no hierarchical power. But what I did have was a vision of a better life with dementia. The more I told people about this vision and the idea of Dementia Adventure the more it grew. Before I knew it I was becoming a leader, not because I was a CEO (there was nothing to be a CEO of at that point) but because people like Clore Social believed in me. People wanted to follow me, wanted to join with me to make this idea, this dream, a reality. There were a number of pivotal experiences on the Clore Social programme including producing and launching the  research, taking part in Action Learning Sets and mentoring sessions with an  in the USA. But perhaps most critical was the experience, confidence and validity I gained from the Clore Leadership programme at Windsor Castle. I learnt over a few days that you are a leader regardless of your position or status in an organisation. You are a leader if you have a vision and a mission which others believe in and want to make happen by choosing to take positive action towards the goal you have articulated. The Clore Social motto resonated then and still does today: ‘know yourself, be yourself and look after yourself.’

Ten years on and thanks to Clore Social, and many many others, my vision is now a reality. During my ten years of leading Dementia Adventure from a back bedroom idea to a £1M organisation supporting thousands of families, I learnt a great deal. Leadership involves following your path, listening to your followers, coping with self-doubt, staying true to your values and having the courage and bravery to fulfil your purpose. I guess looking back I did better at the first two elements of the Clore Social motto: knowing myself and being myself, than I did with the crucial third element, looking after myself. With hindsight, I should have invested sooner in more consistent peer-based support, something which worked so well during the 2010-11 programme period. Being with and talking through challenges with other leaders in an Action Learning Set is now something I have brought back into my life as the host of the Clore Social Chapter for the North of Scotland.

2019 was quite a year. Dementia Adventure celebrated its tenth birthday. My extended family and I relocated to North East Scotland, from Essex, to live a simpler life by the sea and the mountains. As I sit here in 2020 I am deeply proud of everything the growing team of people at Dementia Adventure has achieved and will go on to achieve. In the same way that I am deeply proud of my children, the work has yet to produce more great things. My current path involves writing more and supporting other social sector leaders, as well as swimming in the icy coastal waters of Scotland. Reflecting back on 2010 is an important thing but how many of us plan the next ten years? Where will you be in 2030? What will you be doing? What will you have in your life? For more reading and resources on planning your next decade do please read my blog post: Little green (& black) books.



Neil is a 2010 Clore Social Leadership fellow and Chapter Lead for the Clore Social Leadership North of Scotland Chapter. For more information on the work of this chapter click here to visit their page.

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Seek to understand, think, and then respond

Posted By Clore Social Leadership, 10 February 2020
Updated: 23 October 2020

Blog by 2019 Cobseo Emerging Leader Fellow, Katherine Lawrence, Head of Operations at the SCiP Alliance

The Cobseo Emerging Leader programme gave me so much more than I expected. When I plucked up the confidence to submit my application in the hope of expanding my narrow network in the military charity sector, I had no idea how transformative it would be, not only professionally but also personally. I felt welcomed, supported and part of something special and I would advise anyone else considering or starting on this journey to embrace it with openness, curiosity and a willingness to be vulnerable.

With a background in education, I’m used to supporting young people to know themselves, to identify the paths to their goals and to have the confidence to go for it; until now I hadn’t thought how to apply these lessons to myself. The programme provided time to reflect and a safe space to take on challenges and step out of my comfort zone, learning both with and from my fellow participants.

"The programme provided time to reflect and a safe space to take on challenges and step out of my comfort zone."


Some elements of the programme were familiar to me but previously hadn’t deeply touched me; now they were delivered with a thoroughness that was transformative. There were some real ‘oh dear!’ moments as I realised things about myself and my way of interacting that I’d never let myself look at before.

The programme didn’t just make me face these, it gave me tools, motivation and peer accountability which enabled me to change habits of a lifetime. One powerful aspect of the programme was the training in identifying the type of response needed in a situation; I learnt to think about what sort of person I would like to be in an interaction and have been trying, with various degrees of success, to act as that person rather than in my default mode.

I have developed my own leadership identity; I feel more comfortable leading with conviction and am buoyed by a clarity of purpose I have never felt before, confident to take action, take responsibility and handle difficult situations head on.

"I feel more comfortable leading with conviction and am buoyed by a clarity of purpose I have never felt before." 


So, to sum up, I certainly did gain those contacts I had hoped for but so much more; true friends and deep understanding of the context they work in. I have a better understanding of not only my own sector but the wider social sector. I am really excited to be part of the new Clore Social South Central chapter – an opportunity to feel again that challenge, reflection and exhilaration I enjoyed on the Cobseo Emerging Leader programme.


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Leadership belongs to everyone

Posted By Clore Social Leadership, 05 February 2020
Updated: 23 October 2020

My name is Serena Cecchinato, currently Operations Director at Give Us Time, a small military charity supporting Armed Forces families in need of rest and rehabilitation after suffering stresses and strains as a family unit.

I applied for the Cobseo Emerging Leader Programme after my Managing Director heard about the opportunity. At the time, the charity was going through some changes and adjustments which resulted in me having to take up more responsibilities in my role as well as managing a full-time member of staff. Back then, I took the opportunity more to benefit my organisation and my team rather than myself. I didn’t know it would be an extraordinary and life changing personal journey, as well as a professional one.

I think what a lot of people get wrong about “leadership” is that they consider it to be a skill to acquire, some magic wand you can buy along the way. What I have found thanks to the Programme is that everyone is a leader and leadership belongs to everyone; you just need to discover your own leadership style and in which situations you can put it to good use.

"You just need to discover your own leadership style and in which situations you can put it to good use."

Even though all participants had different backgrounds, different years of experience and different paths ahead of us, the Programme created a safe environment where we could learn, grow and develop from each other. I found it enlightening to be able to share experiences, thoughts and ideas with peers from my sector. It was important to realise how people react differently to situations. With understanding comes the knowledge of behaving in a way that brings the best of everyone to the table.

"With understanding comes the knowledge of behaving in a way that brings the best of everyone to the table."

Some people need to be reassured, others need to shine, while others prefer structures and deadlines. It’s about understanding your team and how the different personalities can work together at their very best, improving the efficiency and productivity of your organisation, as well as making the work environment a much better place.

It is also important to understand yourself and how you react to situations and others’ behaviours. Thanks to the Programme, I have understood that you need to be aware of yourself (the good, the bad and the really bad!) in order to be a good leader and inspire others.

The enthusiasm and skills the Programme gifted me with proved to be extremely important for my team and my charity as well. I took what I learned back to the office, discussed it with the team and involved our Board of Trustees as well; overall creating a breath of fresh air we are all benefiting from!

Since I have spoken so highly about my experience with Clore Social, my colleague is now taking the Programme as well! I am looking forward to seeing his journey now.

I also think that the Programme benefits our sector as a whole. Not only because we have created long lasting relations with our peers on the Programme, but because we are influencing our teams, our organisations and by extent: our sector.

I am so grateful I had this opportunity as I have learned so much about myself and improved so many aspects of my professional life as a result. I honestly cannot recommend the Programme more highly!


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